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9/11 Black Boxes Where Are They?

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9/11 black boxes where are they?
from James M: Monty Python's illegitimate child (airforcescot) photos on Thu 10/12/09 04:15

Watched a new show Jesse Ventura conspiracy theory...whatever happened to the black boxes of the planes that crashed into the buildings in NYC?

He talked to the FBI...then to eyewitnesses who claim coverup...that the terrorists were in the lanes before they left the ground...what do you think?

Ta,

James

Re: 9/11 black boxes where are they?
from Alan H: Ex-Member (deleted:alan1hogan) photos on Thu 10/12/09 09:27

I would still like to know how a 1000ft building fell in 10 seconds. The pancake theory does not stand up to the most basic physics!!!

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Re: 9/11 black boxes where are they?
from Ben D: English not British (ben) founder member member photos on Thu 10/12/09 13:04

quickfind:airforcescot > "9/11 black boxes where are they?"

Hang on, let me ask my pal Elvis......

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Re: 9/11 black boxes where are they?
from Shona R: spam,spam,egg sausage beans and spam... (binky77) photos on Thu 10/12/09 14:52

i never knew that they didnt have the black boxes,seems a bit dodgy,but then the titanic was apparently an insurance scam,they never landed on the moon,princess di was killed by MI5,and so on ad infinitum,if you took an incident you could if you tried hard enough make it sound like a cover up or a conspiracy theory,occam's razor dictates that, all things being equal, the simplest explaination is most often the correct one,so is it that the us government ordered the mass slaughter of hundreds of innocent people in order to have an excuse to start an otherwise unfounded war,or that a group of terrorists took it upon themselves to destroy lives in the name of their god and country?

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Re: 9/11 black boxes where are they?
from David B: Proud member of the Clan Buchanan! (ctbuchanan) member photos on Thu 10/12/09 15:01

I'm not sure what James and Jesse are asking. Are they saying that the terrorists got in the planes AFTER they left the ground?
Oh and by the way, I ALWAYS go to Jesse Ventura when I'm looking for the truth.

Re: 9/11 black boxes where are they?
from James M: Monty Python's illegitimate child (airforcescot) photos on Thu 10/12/09 15:47

Elvis has the black boxes

Ta,

James

Re: 9/11 black boxes where are they?
from Andy C: SAOR ALBA (killieandy) photos on Thu 10/12/09 17:11

the black boxes were aparently never found which is surprising as they managed to find all the terrorists passports very quickly with no damage to them. the point about the rate of fall is a very good one. there are clips on you tube showing the fall with a timer and they show it falling at free fall rate not in a pancake fall as has been said by the gov. for those that dont know what is ment by a pancake fall its when one floor falls down to the next then they fall to the third and so on untill it stops/hits the bottom. the point being in a pancake fall there is a change in downward speeds which will make it slower than if it was falling at free fall speed. as to 9/11 it would indicate that the internal stucture had been cut just before the collapse happened.
the whole official findings of 9/11 have some very strange things in it and things which dont add up. as to the real story i dont think we will ever find out the truth but the gov will still carry on saying what they want us to believe and trying to dismiss those that attempt to find out the truth

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Re: 9/11 black boxes where are they?
from David B: Proud member of the Clan Buchanan! (ctbuchanan) member photos on Thu 10/12/09 17:22

quickfind:killieandy > "the internal stucture had been cut just before the collapse happened"

So what we are being asked to believe is A. Someone designed 'cuts' in the structures when they were built knowing that they would be exploded decades later or B. Somehow, someway workers infiltrated BOTH towers without anyone knowing or asking, ripped away internal walls that would allow them to cut main supporting steel on multiple floors or perhaps every floor using what? arc welding equipment, lasers, space guns? Then covered it all up again and waited for the planes to hit. AND it was our own government that did it without anyone catching on.

Well I suppose if John Maclean could survive Die Hard I and II this could have happened as well.

Re: 9/11 black boxes where are they?
from Andy C: SAOR ALBA (killieandy) photos on Thu 10/12/09 19:27

the main supporting steel work was accesable from the lift shafts and many people working in the two towers and tower 7 told how in the weeks leading up to 9/11 there was a lot of contrater type workers in and out of the buildings and that the lifts were always being shut 1 group at a time. as to cutting there has been independant studies that found very high levels of thermite dust around the area of the wtc. when it was looked into why they could not find a reason for it. they could only surmise that IF the wtc was dropped by a demolition explosion using thermite it could have caused all the dust. one prog about it talked to a demolition expert who said thermite is never used in demolition but then this was the main demolition contractor fot the us gov.
also why was the rubble left very quickly removed and destroyed
as i said above there are to many things that dont add up in the official report byt i cant see the truth ever coming out as the back lash would be to much. how would you feel if you found out your gov caused this and then covered it up
below is a link to a M.I.T. engineer disprooving the pancake collapse

Re: 9/11 black boxes where are they?
from Alan H: Ex-Member (deleted:alan1hogan) photos on Thu 10/12/09 22:01

And what about WT7??? colaped in 5 seconds perfectly in to its own footprint due to a simple inefficient hydrocarbon fire burning for about 7 hrs.........??????

And its hardly ever reported......most people have never even heard of it!!!!!!

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Re: 9/11 black boxes where are they?
from Andy C: SAOR ALBA (killieandy) photos on Thu 10/12/09 22:11

have you heard what agancys had offices in wt7 F.B.I., C.I.A., D.O.D., to name a few. there is some rummers going about that there was a joint investigation in to some part of the gov and the collected data had been stored there but due to the collapse the investigation was hushed up and no official comment made.
there is also the case of the missing gold bullion stored in valts under the wtc. aprox 25 mil was in these valts but after the collapse only about 2 mil was recovered which happened to be found loded on a truck in the tunnels under the buildings

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Re: 9/11 black boxes where are they?
from James M: Monty Python's illegitimate child (airforcescot) photos on Fri 11/12/09 05:26

Andy great stuff mate!

Scary that ones own govt can do this or whoever got away with this.

Cheers,

James

Re: 9/11 black boxes where are they?
from Bill H: I'm the Damn Yank! (sheepwhisperer) photos on Sun 13/12/09 14:12

I saw that episode last night and was shocked at some of the dodgy answers the FBI agent was giving. You would think that someone in that position would be better able to think on their feet. Some of the arguments that were brought up were interesting, whether they are true or not.

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Re: 9/11 black boxes where are they?
from Scott M: Chieftain, Singapore St Andrews Society (singscott) photos on Fri 08/01/10 06:02

isn't the reason for all the inconsistent answers the same as ever - the people (i.e. elected officials) giving the answers are incompetent and useless but they feel the pressure to provide answers quicky to:

a - keep everybody calm
b - pretend they are not incompetent and useless
c - scared

Then it dawns on them that bad news can be released in toher areas and they can use the situation to start campaigns that otherwise they would never get away with.

Small point to remember is that the black boxes were found next to Saddam Husseins super gun that was in inside Osama Bin Ladens cave disguised as his dialysis machine.

Re: 9/11 black boxes where are they?
from Shona R: spam,spam,egg sausage beans and spam... (binky77) photos on Fri 08/01/10 11:56

quickfind:singscott > "Small point to remember is that the black boxes were found next to Saddam Husseins super gun that was in inside Osama Bin Ladens cave disguised as his dialysis machine."

omg! is that true? lol....i watched farenheit 9/11 the other day,wow no offence to the americans on here but if its all true the u.s is one messed up corrupt place...

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